Martin Was Recommended By Houston and Grunfeld

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#101
g8terh8ter_eric said:
I just want to know how they know him as all, and why they gave him such a great reference in regards to the job. Did they get it from film, other coaches and players talking, TV?? I don't know, and I would like to.
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Could be because their jobs is basketball. They live and breathe basketball. They have contacts all over the country. They scout players all over the country and at most all colleges. I really don't think you have any reason to question their recommendations as to a good coach.
 
#103
#103
it couldn't possibly be that the coaching has led to more open looks. it's luck and a motivated group of maybe the least qualified tourney team ever.
 
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#105
BasketvolsFan said:
Could be because their jobs is basketball. They live and breathe basketball. They have contacts all over the country. They scout players all over the country and at most all colleges. I really don't think you have any reason to question their recommendations as to a good coach.
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Yeah, because they are the ultimate source for everything basketball at UT. :ermm:
 
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JokermanVol said:
it couldn't possibly be that the coaching has led to more open looks. it's luck and a motivated group of maybe the least qualified tourney team ever.
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so they broke out the new plan in the tourney. Barely skidded in under the closing door to keep the magic offensive weapon hidden. At least we now know the lengths to which you'll go.
 
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Tux said:
According to 104.5 The Zone, Allan Houston and Ernie Grunfeld played a major role in recommending UT hire Cuonzo Martin.

Some may be surprised that Ernie jumped back to help UT after parting ways with Bruce Pearl.

We hired a very good basketball coach folks.
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That works for me. He's getting some praise from some lofty places. I'm sure there were others, though.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
so they broke out the new plan in the tourney. Barely skidded in under the closing door to keep the magic offensive weapon hidden. At least we now know the lengths to which you'll go.
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Shaka planned it that way. He intentionally put them in a position to be in the play in game. He knew Vucevic and Donte Smith would miss a million shots and it gave him time to work out the kinks in his magnificent new plan.
 
#113
#113
g8terh8ter_eric said:
Don't get me wrong, as I said before they obviously have UT's best interest in their minds, but what makes them the ultimate reference book for coaches here?? I'm just asking questions.
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nobody said that they're the ultimate reference. I understood it to mean that those two in agreement with the hire. If they had reservations and voiced them, I would hope we listened intently. The danger in this whole process was that Cheek was heavily involved and it had a huge chance of going full on retarded. It apparently didn't.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
nobody said that they're the ultimate reference. I understood it to mean that those two in agreement with the hire. If they had reservations and voiced them, I would hope we listened intently. The danger in this whole process was that Cheek was heavily involved and it had a huge chance of going full on retarded. It apparently didn't.
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Aside from recommending Pearl be terminated, how was Cheek heavily involved? I keep hearing this.
 
#118
#118
BigPapaVol said:
nobody said that they're the ultimate reference. I understood it to mean that those two in agreement with the hire. If they had reservations and voiced them, I would hope we listened intently. The danger in this whole process was that Cheek was heavily involved and it had a huge chance of going full on retarded. It apparently didn't.
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Well, he hasn't coached a game here yet, so we don't know how it will go at this point in time.
 
#119
#119
IPorange said:
Aside from recommending Pearl be terminated, how was Cheek heavily involved? I keep hearing this.
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He made very clear from the beginning of this process that he'd be heavily involved, which meant, at the very minimum, that veto power would be wielded.

I think he set the pricing parameters and the squeaky clean image as the highest priorities. That limited the sphere of available coaches.

Note: I'm not saying I disagree with the image piece. It makes sense. The pricing side is a bit silly.
 
#120
#120
BigPapaVol said:
He made very clear from the beginning of this process that he'd be heavily involved, which meant, at the very minimum, that veto power would be wielded.

I think he set the pricing parameters and the squeaky clean image as the highest priorities. That limited the sphere of available coaches.

Note: I'm not saying I disagree with the image piece. It makes sense. The pricing side is a bit silly.
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Agreed, the pricing is silly and can only be for image purposes as well.
 
#121
#121
BigPapaVol said:
exactly. Getting hot at a very opportune time is pure fantasy. Never happens. Limping to the play in game, awaiting the right moment to spring the shooting prowess is rock solid.
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"the team that the tv guys called the worst tourney team of all time got lucky all the way to the final four."

their 3 top scorers shot over 40 percent from the 3-point line this season, via luck and in-arena wind drafts. shocking they'd hit 3 threes in the tourney.
 
#122
#122
g8terh8ter_eric said:
Ok, this hire maybe a great one in the end, but to sit here and act like Martin is somehow a better coach than Byrd is right now, is just absurd. I'm good with Martin being our coach, but don't sit here and try and trash a coach who has won 600 games in his career. Most coaches never get that far.
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Why the infatuation with Byrd?
 
#123
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BigPapaVol said:
He made very clear from the beginning of this process that he'd be heavily involved, which meant, at the very minimum, that veto power would be wielded.
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Ah, administrative veto power. I love it. It's the reason Bob Huggins wasn't hired in the spring of '05.
 
#124
#124
Originally Posted by LawVol13
It could have been worse. We could have hired Rick Byrd.

"Ok, this hire maybe a great one in the end, but to sit here and act like Martin is somehow a better coach than Byrd is right now, is just absurd. I'm good with Martin being our coach, but don't sit here and try and trash a coach who has won 600 games in his career. Most coaches never get that far." Posted by g8atorh8ater eric

"Didn't see him trash him? And I think most schools would rather have Martin than Byrd." Posted Tvols75

I would have to disagree, the word worse is not a compliment.
 
#125
#125
Jaytrain5 said:
Why the infatuation with Byrd?
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Not an infatuation. I'm just of the mind that if we can't hire a coach that has somewhat of a name, then I would rather hire someone who can get the most out of our players, especially given the fact the 'AA sanctions are probably going to hinder anyone to come in and recruit very well at first anyways. He has also won at a clip of 65% in his career. He was a student assistant with Mears as well. I guess I was just valuing the wins and experience, versus a coach that doesn't really have that much experience. Martin's ceiling is probably higher than Byrd's is as well. If I had to pick, I would take Byrd over this guy, but not someone like a Marshall or Grant.
 
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