Official "eat crow" because Butch was hired here thread

It means more coming from a MOD too. You know...they are a mod, so their point of view has to be the right one.

did it ever occur to you that mods on VN are also UT fans with an opinion? Just because we are also able to delete Chinese spammers doesn't make the opinion any more/less valid. Try paying a little more attention to the post and a little less to the poster
 
Ill start off. I was out of town, and almost gave up on us ever having a capable coach when I read the news of Jones being hired. I of course did some research, and as always (Dooley being the lone exception( convinced myself he could get the job done. My lone worry was recruiting. I knew recruiting to UT, was different that Cincy, and that if he was good, we would see the results. Well, he has blown past my best expectations in a little over three months. The man has proven he can coach, and now he is showing everyone he can recruit. Russia got a falling star, UT may have gotten one too. But only people getting hurt here are opposing coaches feelings, knowing they can no longer cherry pick this states top talent. If this week is any inclination of what's to come, consider me giddy.

I was wrong about Butch. Any others?

NO! You are alone. Feel better now.:crazy:
GO VOLS!
 
He hasn't coached ONE game yet but you were WRONG about him....just curious, Do you guys ever think before starting these threads or do you do it for attention?:unsure: You make no sense at all...Yes he is bringing in hot recruits and we are excited but shouldn't we all wait for about 2 or 3 years before preaching to the VOLnation you were wrong about the coach? :eek:lol:

Goat said that he thought coach Jones could not recruit at the level UT needs. He then went on to say this past week has proved em wrong.
 
I think in the MOD manual, under the heading of: "Vols Fans Who Aren't Trolling", there is a bullet point dedicated to "How, when, and why to most effectively 'Knock them back down...'".

Edit: Note I'm not bashing all the mods. I'm just pointing out the fact that, with the MOD designation hanging out there, maybe the phrase "Knock them back down", in reference to Vol fans on this board, isn't the best way to express said opinion.

what the heck are you babbling about? It appears you are confused

Anytime morons want to jump the gun on an "eating crow" thread before the coach's first spring practice is over, I am going to knock him back down to reality.
 
And yet he took those "recruiting classes at Cincinnati were even bad by Big East standards" and won 10 games each of the last 2 years. So say what you want but he obviously knows how to coach his players up and get the best out of them, which has been our biggest gripe for years, in that our players never really played their best.

I'm pretty confident that unlike the other guy, Jones is at least a football coach. I'm not really worried about that aspect of it at all. But in this conference, just being a good coach isn't going to be enough, not with all the talent the other teams pull in. His staff's lack of recruiting success in the past and lack of connections in the south was concerning. He's now off to a great start, certainly, but I need to see more before I'm going to cross it off the list.

Cf. the Bret Bielema hire at Arkansas. Hell of a football coach. No history of recruiting well. In a division with Alabama and LSU. If I were an Arkansas fan I'd have the same concerns.
 
I think we can all agree that what is happening is exciting, but new things always are. I hope all of this excitement turns into conference wins. To many years of our only wins being against vandy and/or kent.
 
Its okay to have a wait and see approach before you eat your crow. He's 0-0 so far. But you can't deny what he has done so far isn't pretty damn impressive. Hurd is the biggest recruit we've gotten since Manning. Not to mention he's got Kelley, Hurd, and Vic on board, committed, and getting other top potential recruits excited about playing in Knoxville. CBJ has got the fans excited again!. He may be 0-0 but this offseason he is batting a thousand!
 
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"I need to see a few games first" is negativity?

I had you confused with another poster. I apologize. :hi:

For the record, I'm in the same boat as you as far as making my mind up. I think I'm just a little less prone to call people out for their enthusiasm. I'm glad to see some enthusiasm in our fanbase. I'm glad to see some high hopes emerging. I'm glad to see some of the "battered fan syndrome" breaking its spell. If they want to buy in, by all means...

Anyway. I apologize for calling you out unfairly.
 
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Have family in Portland...

Think I like my crow served in Eugene...

Only hire that I have been upset about was kiffin, Dooley improved our roster by a considerable amount, he just hired a hodgepodge of assistants (a cohesive team of coaches is better say Butch). sal sunseri shall henceforth be known as CareerKiller. Hope jimbo knows what he and Jay Graham are in for :)
 
Enthusiasm from a bunch of random guys posting on a message board in the middle of the night in March = a recipe for winning on the football field by college kids in the fall. Got it.

My biggest concern about Jones has always been that his recruiting classes at Cincinnati were bad even by Big East standards. Kelly and Hurd are great, but this is something I'm going to worry about until he beats out other SEC teams for kids out of Georgia and Florida. I'm optimistic about the way things are going too, believe me, but I just think an "I'm eating crow about Butch!" thread already is ridiculously silly.

When we win games in September in Knoxville, I'll be sure to thank the big man upstairs for your mindset in your Alabama basement in March. Won't be able to have done it without you.


Don't apologize to him Crush. Fans have differences of opinions. Fans on VN talk to each other this way. Why, because that's what we do. Statements like this should NEVER come from a Mod. Fan or not, when you log in under the name that says MODERATOR under it, these kind of statements should never appear.
 
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Don't apologize to him Crush. Fans have differences of opinions. Fans on VN talk to each other this way. Why, because that's what we do. Statements like this should NEVER come from a Mod. Fan or not, when you log in under the name that says MODERATOR under it, these kind of statements should never appear.

he's a Vol fans and his posts break no rules. It's really that simple

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I was in the go big or go home crowd. I did want Gruden. I wanted Gruden because he would immediately draw top recruits AND top assistant coaches to our Vols' program that has been embarrassed and trashed for far too long. I tried to like Kiffin and Dools and spoke with them personally. It was impossible. They were fish out of water from Day 1. Stupid hires.

Too early to tell on CBJ, and more importantly on his staff's ability to coach at an SEC level. I do like what I am seeing and hearing. I have told everybody that asks that I believe Jones would have made the best hire after Fulmer (outside of Kelly) had he already been the head coach at Cincy. I had him on my top 5 prospective head coaches outside of Gruden because I have watched CMU and Cincy play a half dozen games with him as HC. Very disciplined teams. I never once believed Charlie Strong was the guy and it was during Hart/Cheek's courtship of him, Fisher, Gundy, etc. that I lost all respect for those two. Despite supporter's claims I saw UL did not recruit that well despite having a shady ex-Miami recruiting guru and that his offensive scheme/playcalling absolutely stunk. Yet, I understood why Hart/Cheek and probably Big Jim didn't want to back Gruden even if I disagreed with their opinion.

That's all behind us now. I am orange blooded. I support Butch and staff and hope they can restore the program to the level it belongs. So far so good, but let's see it on the field against SEC opponents.
 
The first step is owning up to it, great job guys. Great job.

.... Me too, I tohught we were doomed. Feel like an idiot, but grateful at the same time.
 
Good lord. He got a couple highly rated in state legacies. He hasn't coached his first game, gone through a complete spring practice, orange/white game, fall practice, or his first full NSD. Chill the f out.


Why does it make you mad for people to be happy and optimistic? It obviously gets under your skin and I'm just curious as to why it matters to you? Hasn't this fanbase been down long enough that it's ok to show a little excitement?
 
SIAP I've never bashed Butch or praised him, because he still hasn't WON A GAME! That's all that matters to me.
 
I sure hope any of our potential recruits don't read the sites where there are so many people dissing our Coaches and even our recruits. Every post seems to say that he is not proven yet or has not recruited outside of Nashville, etc, etc. Boy, if I were a recruit and read all of this crap from people who are supposed to be fans, I would say no way would I go there!!!!!!!

Have a little common sense when you start spewing out all of that kind of crap!
If you don't, he may not get those that read your negative posts.

I happened to be Orange good or bad!

Go Big Orange!!!!!
 
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My biggest concern about Jones has always been that his recruiting classes at Cincinnati were bad even by Big East standards. Kelly and Hurd are great, but this is something I'm going to worry about until he beats out other SEC teams for kids out of Georgia and Florida. I'm optimistic about the way things are going too, believe me, but I just think an "I'm eating crow about Butch!" thread already is ridiculously silly.

No they weren't. That just isn't true. Be doubtful all you want. That's fine with me. Just don't see a reason to criticize others who have a more positive outlook.
 
By the way, you negative posters should read all the positive comments made by our commited recruits to those not yet commited. Nothing but positive





By the way, you guys that are negative posters should read the comments made by the committed recruits to those that we are recruiting. Nothing but positive. They are, to my estimation, better Vol supporters than you. Wise up, maybe you can help racruit as well as Wharton, Hurd and the others!

Go Big Orange!!!!
 
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If "better than Derek Dooley" was the criterion for the hire, then we should have just torn down Neyland Stadium and moved the Ag Campus closer in.

I am not crapping on Jones at all. I just think it's way way premature for a victory lap.

Exactly. So far, I love Butch and what his staff his doing. He has done so much more in a few months than Dooley did in 3 years. However, we saw Dooley salvage a top 10 recruiting class in 2-3 weeks when Kiffin left. I mean, he was able to get Da'Rick, Hunter (LSU commit), JuJuan James, and Antonio Richardson to come. I do, though, have a much better vibe about our recruiting now. I think Butch is going to consistently keep us in the top 10 every year in recruiting. We will know in time if Butch can step up and be more than a recruiter.....he's got to be a gamebreaking coach
 
No they weren't. That just isn't true. Be doubtful all you want. That's fine with me. Just don't see a reason to criticize others who have a more positive outlook.


Whether they were or not does not really matter to me. CBJ WON with those teams.

He is now showing he can recruit in the SEC too.

It looks like, at least by the videos i'm seeing, that he and his staff can coach in practice.

He definate;y is showing that he can change the fan bases (for the most part) attitude.

The only thing that I see we are waiting for is to see if he can bring the same in game coachng to the SEC.

Until the season starts and we see the on the field product...I choose to be elated by what I am seeing so far.

I'll use the same response that the "not so positive" posters use. If you don't like what I am saying...use the ignore button.
 
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