Oregon could become 1st US state to decriminalize hard drugs

[volbeast33]

Lol I didn't ask for a story, just a yes or no. Is it the individual's responsibility to know the correct dosages?

You know damn well the answer is no. It is the doctor's responsibility to evaluate each patient and prescribe the appropriate drug and the appropriate amount. Doctors were paid by Purdue to knowingly overprescribe non-addicts and to knowingly keep an open trade line for addicts to legally obtain the same drugs they would be arrested for had they bought them off the street.

In 2020, yeah most people are aware of the dangers of pain killers. That doesn't exonerate doctors from malpractice or their Hippocratic oaths at any point in time. Doctors had been overprecribing since the mid 90s when Oxy was introduced. How were the individuals supposed to know their doctors were overprescribing? They didn't have 15 years of an opioid epidemic to reference like we do now. Your anecdotes are as relevant as your ability to answer a yes/no question.

This entire situation could not more clearly illustrate how big pharma and crooked doctors fabricated a generation of addicts, then actively and knowingly maintained a vehicle to keep these people addicted. It also seamlessly ties in to further expose the train wreck that is the war on drugs.

Since you don’t want discussion.... I will just say:

Yes doctors and big pharma should be held accountable
Yes.... the individual is responsible for his addiction

Both can be true at the same time

 

[Hunerwadel]

You think it will stay inside the home? This thought process made sodomy legal and now our kids are being fed it in their schools.

Being educated on a subject and being "fed" it are not the same thing.

 

[Chris4Vols22]

Since you don’t want discussion.... I will just say:

Yes doctors and big pharma should be held accountable
Yes.... the individual is responsible for his addiction

Both can be true at the same time

Responsible individuals with no intent of catching a buzz followed their doctor's orders and developed addiction. That's a fact. People exactly like you who would never dream of abusing drugs and understand the risks of drug addiction were not and are not immune to addiction. You can fault the individual for picking up the pills and ingesting them all you want, but there were and are a substantial amount of individuals who would not have ingested the pills had their doctors not advised them to - people just like you. Also a fact.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Good. Need more natural selection of our species anyway.

This all day

 

[FLVOL_79]

Being educated on a subject and being "fed" it are not the same thing.

 

[utvolpj]

Actually most hardcore drug addicts start with marijuana

I would imagine they start with cigarettes and alcohol more than pot.

 

[Rickyvol77]

I'll bet it starts with alcohol and cigarettes'.

In some cases sure

 

[Rickyvol77]

And or alcohol at 10-16 years old.

Yep

 

[Rickyvol77]

I would imagine they start with cigarettes and alcohol more than pot.

Not all the time but sometimes

 

[OHvol40]

Tell us about all these countries you can walk in and get an MRI same day? Schedule a surgery at your convenience? Pick among the very best doctors in the world?

You usually won’t get an MRI here unless it’s an emergency, and it’s the exact same way in other countries. You will schedule surgery based on your schedule matching with your surgeons, unless it’s an emergency, just like most other countries. You have more freedom to pick your doctors in other countries than you do here due to insurance networks. What else you got?

 

[TNVOLNAVY]

Good. Need more natural selection of our species anyway.

Exactly. I imagine the only thing saving this country from going over the cliff years ago is leftists committing suicide and ODs, leftist white and AA women having abortions, AAs killing each other, and alphabet people not reproducing.

 

[McDad]

How are the wind gusts in Oregon? Asking for a friend.

 

[Septic]

In some cases sure

Some?

I'd wager the VAST, VAST majority, far more so than weed.

 

[Rickyvol77]

You usually won’t get an MRI here unless it’s an emergency, and it’s the exact same way in other countries. You will schedule surgery based on your schedule matching with your surgeons, unless it’s an emergency, just like most other countries. You have more freedom to pick your doctors in other countries than you do here due to insurance networks. What else you got?

False.

 

[C-south]

You usually won’t get an MRI here unless it’s an emergency, and it’s the exact same way in other countries. You will schedule surgery based on your schedule matching with your surgeons, unless it’s an emergency, just like most other countries. You have more freedom to pick your doctors in other countries than you do here due to insurance networks. What else you got?

Said nobody in Canada or the UK ever.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Actually most hardcore drug addicts start with marijuana

I'm sure it has absolutely nothing to do with the availability, price, and potency.

The gateway argument is bunk. Try again.

"Most sex addicts started with kissing other people."

 

[Orangeslice13]

I am fine with it.

Me too.
Treat as a public health issue

 

[Orangeslice13]

Some?

I'd wager the VAST, VAST majority, far more so than weed.

I’d argue that almost 100% of people who ever used weed have had alcohol and or cigarettes beforehand.

 

[OHvol40]

False.

True

 

[OHvol40]

Said nobody in Canada or the UK ever.

Yes they do... unless you only listen to conservative American outlets and not the actual citizens of the the countries you speak of.

 

[C-south]

Yes they do... unless you only listen to conservative American outlets and not the actual citizens of the the countries you speak of.

I know plenty of Canadians and talk to them on a daily basis. They will be the first to tell you their healthcare sucks.

 

[OHvol40]

I know plenty of Canadians and talk to them on a daily basis. They will be the first to tell you their healthcare sucks.

What % of Canadians approve of their healthcare? What % of Americans do?

 

[C-south]

What % of Canadians approve of their healthcare? What % of Americans do?

Probably be similar to the ones that want to pay for their own healthcare versus the ones that want everyone else to pay for their healthcare.

 

[Septic]

I’d argue that almost 100% of people who ever used weed have had alcohol and or cigarettes beforehand.

That's precisely what I'm saying.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Yes they do... unless you only listen to conservative American outlets and not the actual citizens of the the countries you speak of.

I call BS.
The Red Woman has survived PBC and Cronic Lyme. We’re in many support groups. We’re regularly asked by people in England how we got our treatments approved and payed for.
You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about.
We now have a new issue that just came up and we’re going to a specialist at Vanderbilt. Again everyone is shocked at how fast we’re going to see someone