The Reason UT Can No Longer Sign Elite WRs

#76
#76
Why all the snarking? It's a discussion thread. Anyone who doesn't want to discuss the topic doesn't have to participate.
 
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LA Vol said:
Josh Malone has 54 catches for 636 yds in two years at UT. He's a 5*. Coaches like Dabo compare that to the gaudy stats of their WRs, and elite recruits take note.

Malone and Williams need to have huge years. Because right now, we're not WRU and haven't been for a while. Getting in that WRU battle last year with Clemson was stupid. They're rubbing our nose in it.
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Yep, spot on. It's incredibly easy to negative recruit Tennessee to a top flight WR right now. That's just the truth.
 
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LA Vol said:
Josh Malone has 54 catches for 636 yds in two years at UT. He's a 5*. Coaches like Dabo compare that to the gaudy stats of their WRs, and elite recruits take note.

Malone and Williams need to have huge years. Because right now, we're not WRU and haven't been for a while. Getting in that WRU battle last year with Clemson was stupid. They're rubbing our nose in it.
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junder13 said:
The first two lines below each game provide a breakdown of the leading two WRs from all 13 games from last season. The third line shows the combined stats for all WRs in each game (strictly showing the WR position, not TEs or RBs).
*The first paragraph was edited for clarity on the data provided below; I also edited the credited TD reception versus UGA (from Malone to Smith).

Bowling Green
Jauan Jennings 3 rec, 56 yards
Von Pearson 2 rec, 48 yards
10 rec, 171 yards, 17.1 avg yards per reception, 0 TDs

Oklahoma
Josh Smith 4 rec, 56 yards
Josh Malone 2 rec, 19 yards, 1 TD
11 rec, 115 yards, 10.5 avg yards per reception, 1 TD (Malone)

Western Carolina
Preston Williams 3 rec, 98 yards, 2 TDs
Josh Malone 4 rec, 33 yards
15 rec, 189 yards, 12.6 avg yards per reception, 2 TDs (Williams)

Florida
Josh Smith 1 rec, 6 yards
Jauan Jennings 1 rec, 1 yard
2 rec, 7 yards, 3.5 avg yards per reception, 0 TDs
*No third receiver made a reception

Arkansas
Josh Smith 2 rec, 34 yards
Von Pearson 3 rec, 30 yards
12 rec, 110 yards, 9.2 avg yards per reception, 0 TDs

Georgia
Josh Malone 5 rec, 60 yards
Preston Williams 2 rec, 41 yards
12 rec, 179 yards, 14.9 avg yards per reception, 1 TD (Josh Smith)
*edit: the one TD reception to a WR against UGA was mistakenly credited to Malone in the original post (Kamara had 2 receiving TDs)

Bama
Josh Malone 2 rec, 43 yards
Josh Smith 2 rec, 38 yards, 1 TD
8 rec, 122 yards, 15.3 avg yards per reception, 1 TD (Smith)

Kentucky
Josh Malone 4 rec, 103 yards, 1 TD (75 yard reception)
Von Pearson 5 rec, 37 yards
11 rec, 156 yards, 14.2 avg yards per reception, 1 TD (Malone)
*Only other receptions at WR: Jauan Jennings (1 for 11 yards) and Josh Smith (1 for 5 yards)
*If you remove the 75 bomb to Malone: 10 rec, 81 yards, 8.1 avg yards per reception

South Carolina
Von Pearson 8 rec, 121 yards, 1 TD
Josh Smith 3 rec, 42 yards
13 rec, 192 yards, 14.8 avg yards per reception, 1 TD (Pearson)

North Texas
Josh Malone 4 rec, 38 yards,
Josh Smith 2 rec, 28 yards
13 rec, 136 yards, 10.5 avg yards per reception, 0 TDs

Missouri
Josh Malone 2 rec, 35 yards
Von Pearson 7 rec, 28 yards
9 rec, 63 yards, 7 avg yards per reception, 0 TDs
*No third receiver made a reception

Vandy
Josh Smith 4 rec, 50 yards
Von Pearson 3 rec, 40 yards, 2 TDs
7 rec, 90 yards, 12.9 avg yards per reception, 2 TDs (Pearson)
*No third receiver made a reception

Northwestern
Von Pearson 2 rec, 32 yards
Josh Malone 2 rec, 17 yards
7 rec, 77 yards, 11 avg yards per reception, 0 TDs


UT had a WR with more than 100 yards receiving in a single game only twice.
Not in one game did UT have multiple WRs with receiving TDs.
For the season, UT had only 9 TD receptions by WRs.
That stat against UF is absolutely unacceptable. I wonder when was the last time UT only had 2 receptions at the WR position for an entire game.

Butch Jones' offense does not utilize the WR position. Once I looked up the stats from last season, I understood why Higgins chose Clemson. This may change once Dobbs graduates but it also may be more related to CBJ's scheme than people realize. I do not think Dobbs is as bad a passer as the offense makes him look. Time will tell. Hopefully our under utilization of our WRs (in addition to our over rotation) changes starting with this season.
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Did they move up signing day? I think we still have a solid shot at both Higgins and Rogers. Glad to see you're a half glass empty poster.

I'm pretty pleased with what we have and what cbj is doing.

;-)

TennesseeDuke
 
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Butch has not had a solid Sec caliber pass blocking offensive line or any depth at QB during his tenure so we honestly have no idea what his ideal passing game plan at UT will be. Hope we find out this year. It's win the sec East time at minimum. No more excuses!!
 
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We will recruit fine, the early season panic is funny stuff like always. Many things will happen between now and signing day. We will have a top 10 class come signing day. GBO!
 
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junder13 said:
I chuckled. I'll tell you what....I'll stop posting fact-derived opinions with a perceived negative slant if one of either three outcomes occur:

1) CBJ does not provide the bountiful ammunition to contend his coaching style, philosophy, and results
2) CBJ coaches all four quarters to win and buries the not-to-lose approach and conservative philosophy
3) People on VN quit posting untruths about the coaching staff, philosophy, and game results.

But as long as every negative view -- no matter how objective or warranted -- is slammed by a group of Butch Jones ballsniffing propagandists and sunshine crusaders on this site, I will continue to provide evidence that supports concern, dissatisfaction, or discontent with the current coaching staff.

And Butchna and your response above that offer no facts or solid reasoning as counter are the only types of retorts you mindless shills will be able to offer. :hi:
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5 7 9 ?
Only stats I care about after Dooley

If that ? becomes double digits and one very long losing streak goes away, then I go from happy to estatic with the results over the four year period any coaching should get. I will save ball sniffing to dawg fans.
 
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Hey lets stop recruiting in every other state but TN because apparently our success from Memphis to Johnson City is the only way our coaches abilities will be measured!
 
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bignewt said:
Hey lets stop recruiting in every other state but TN because apparently our success from Memphis to Johnson City is the only way our coaches abilities will be measured!
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If we offered a 2 star from Tennessee we'd have to honor it too. :unsure:
 
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Yep because getting a kid from Tennessee who will play his heart out beats a 5 star from Georgia any day!
 
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When UT played BG last year they refused to throw the ball. It was run after run after run. Horrible game to watch I knew then it was going to be a long season.
If they refuse to open up the passing game this year we're in for the same type of season as last. How do you think our recruiting will look then. Elite WR do not want to go to a school to block for a RB so it can improve his draft status.
 
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I remember some guy that left us to start a hippie commune in Hawaii that wanted us to offer a TN kid...think he ended up at Austin Peay...we settled for Dobbs.
 
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Apparently since we didn't offer lesser talent in Tennessee in PAST years that's why we're not getting them now. Point shifts from inane argument to inane argument. :loco: And THIS class isn't set yet.
 
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