Tom Smith commits to the Vols

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#103
crusse10 said:
You can't teach speed. You just have to be faster. If you're keeping pace in high school, you will be caught by SEC DBs. Count on it.
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What if those are SEC db's he is playing against in High School? Do they get faster? Cuz they werent catching him.
 
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BmoreVol said:
What if those are SEC db's he is playing against in High School? Do they get faster? Cuz they werent catching him.
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Starting DBs in the SEC will catch a RB running a 4.5+ every time. I'm not even going to bother arguing this.

I don't even know why you're arguing this.
 
#105
#105
The 66th best RB in FL is better than the #1 overall player in a lot of states!
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vol_in_ga said:
i dont like it necessarily. no other top program is going after him. and this means we wont even be in the wilder race as we had previously become because he wants to play rb and assuming we are trying to get justice hayes and d arnett as a package...i dont know. i just didnt really think he was a take at this time.
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Obviously you don't know as much as the coaching staff does about talent and building a football team.:nono:
 
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BmoreVol said:
He is legit - 400lb plus squat, highest florida classification. Dont worry about what speed is listed, he got to the endzone. you dont have to pull away, just dont get caught.
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the running back on my high school team last year squated 425. clearing the 400 mark isn't a huge accomplishment for a RB is it?
 
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crusse10 said:
Starting DBs in the SEC will catch a RB running a 4.5+ every time. I'm not even going to bother arguing this.

I don't even know why you're arguing this.
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No - you tried changed the point. i said not to sweat the 40 time and focus on football speed. a stopwatch means nothing when you are on the football field. i dont understand what you dont understand.

Joe Haden was clocked at what in the 40? 4.6? how many cats did he catch from behind? He could fly on the field, and i dont give a damn what any stopwatch said about him.
 
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#112
I4Jay said:
How many times have u seen Mark Ingram get caught?
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To add to your point, didn't NoShow Moreno post like a 4.6 or 4.7 40 yard dash at the combine before he got drafted? In a vast majority of cases a RB's 40 yard dash is exaggerated in high school and college, and they can be very productive even without a sub 4.5 time.
 
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#114
Advice for some of our posters: Just relax and let our coaching staff do their job. This football team will get better, so don't get upset in June over a 3-star RB commit.
 
#116
#116
crusse10 said:
Seen him get caught? Yeah. Seen him shrug it off? Yeah.


Glad to see you're comparing a 3* RB from Florida to a Heisman winner, though.
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uhhh where did I compare ?

U said 4.5 guy

mark Ingram is that what u described.

That Heisman winner was a 3* RB from MI, what's your point?
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BmoreVol said:
No - you tried changed the point. i said not to sweat the 40 time and focus on football speed. a stopwatch means nothing when you are on the football field. i dont understand what you dont understand.

Joe Haden was clocked at what in the 40? 4.6? how many cats did he catch from behind? He could fly on the field, and i dont give a damn what any stopwatch said about him.
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And at his pro-day he shaved off about 3/10 of a second. I'm not changing the subject. I'm saying he'll get caught.
 
#119
#119
crusse10 said:
Seen him get caught? Yeah. Seen him shrug it off? Yeah.


Glad to see you're comparing a 3* RB from Florida to a Heisman winner, though.
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Don't put too much stock in those 40 times. They're

1) often inaccurate anyway

2) a metric that doesn't directly translate to football, as one is wearing pads and not moving in a continuous direction

3) broken down to a tenth of a second, which one or two tenths of a second do not equate to being "run down" by any means. Do the math: Player A catches the ball and has a one second head start to the end zone over Player B. How many seconds until player B catches him? Assume that A's 40 time is 4.6, and B's is 4.5, and they actually run at those 40 times despite having pads on.

Answer: 10 seconds. I bet they can cover some ground in that time.
 
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#120
Indianavol4eva said:
the running back on my high school team last year squated 425. clearing the 400 mark isn't a huge accomplishment for a RB is it?
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Very true, no it is not necessarily a huge number. 400+ means you are sturdy though and have good core strength, and at that age a good foundation.

In my days, guys werent allowed to squat anything over 600lbs and would rep it out in the 500's. Huge numbers put alot of stress on joints and can limit explosiveness.
 
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#123
crusse10 said:
And what did I say? Yeah. He got caught. But he also brushed them off like flies.
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I almost never take the time to watch a highlight tape bc I usually think they are a joke, but from reading the descriptions of this guy, doesn't that sound like his M.O., too?
 
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#124
Only thing I didn't like about the video was that it was a wildcat/spread offense. We are pro style. He looked good though.
 
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#125
IPorange said:
Don't put too much stock in those 40 times. They're

1) often inaccurate anyway

2) a metric that doesn't directly translate to football, as one is wearing pads and not moving in a continuous direction

3) broken down to a tenth of a second, which one or two tenths of a second do not equate to being "run down" by any means. Do the math: Player A catches the ball and has a one second head start to the end zone over Player B. How many seconds until player B catches him? Assume that A's 40 time is 4.6, and B's is 4.5, and they actually run at those 40 times despite having pads on.

Answer: 10 seconds. I bet they can cover some ground in that time.
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The 2 times on here have him around 4.5 and 4.8. Average that to a 4.65. Now factor in that top-flight SEC DBs run around a 4.4. Now what is it? A sub-5 second window?

Oh, and now you add the factor that he's a RB. He's starting his sprint 20 yards before the DB starts his.
 
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