Vaccine or not?

[Pepe_Silvia]

I’m not surprised that you disagree or hold such an attitude.

To me it’s selfish to expect others to get the vaccine.

Beat me to it.

 

[ButchPlz]

I don't see any need to get it as the at risk people I am around (my parents) are getting it and I am highly unlikely to even show symptoms if I do get it (assuming I haven't had it already).

I still think the adverse affects are way blown out of proportion. If you go by even what the most extreme folks are saying with regard to injuries or deaths 'from the vaccine', it's still basically a decimal dust number- something like a .0008% chance of an immediate problem.

I don't know about long-term effects, and while I don't necessarily trust in our medical industry I also don't think there is anything sinister going on.

 

[clarksvol00]

So you think this vaccine is about 99% effective? Your statements here show a serious flaw. But you do you.

Says the poster who likes to insinuate or flat out claim people said things they didn't say. You did the same thing to me last week.

 

[GoDucks349]

Kind of selfish to expect somebody else to get a vaccine they don't want so that you have peace of mind.

I have my "peace of mind", I want others to have the same. This isn't about "ME" it's about helping everyone. Is it selfish to want safety for others?

self·ish - definition

1. (of a person, action, or motive) lacking consideration for others; concerned chiefly with one's own personal profit or pleasure.
   "I joined them for selfish reasons"
   
   
   

 

[hog88]

I have my "peace of mind", I want others to have the same. This isn't about "ME" it's about helping everyone. Is it selfish to want safety for others?

self·ish - definition

1. (of a person, action, or motive) lacking consideration for others; concerned chiefly with one's own personal profit or pleasure.
   "I joined them for selfish reasons"
   
   

It’s selfish to expect others to provide safety.

 

[GoDucks349]

It’s selfish to expect others to provide safety.

Please explain? How so?

 

[Pepe_Silvia]

I have my "peace of mind", I want others to have the same. This isn't about "ME" it's about helping everyone. Is it selfish to want safety for others?

self·ish - definition

1. (of a person, action, or motive) lacking consideration for others; concerned chiefly with one's own personal profit or pleasure.
   "I joined them for selfish reasons"
   
   

You're not helping everyone by trying to shame people into getting a vaccine. You're just trying to force your "morals" and beliefs on other people.

 

[ButchPlz]

Please explain? How so?

It's right there in what he said. You have an expectation of others to cover your ass.

Frankly, I don't give a rip about you, so figure out your own safety and stop foisting responsibility on others.

If you wanted me to provide your safety and I obliged, I wouldn't leave my house at all, because most of what I do day to day is more risky to you and everyone else than COVID.

It's selfishness to demand other people look out for you as if your safety is worth more than anything else they may want. If you can't see that you live in clown world.

 

[TheDeeble]

You're not helping everyone by trying to shame people into getting a vaccine. You're just trying to force your "morals" and beliefs on other people.

Sounds selfish?

 

[hUTch2002]

Motorcycle and bicycle helmets come to mind too.

We’re worried about what this vaccine might do to us but are unconcerned about so many other things.

Don’t get me started on what the government puts in the water we drink.

To be fair, putting a seatbelt or helmet on you isn’t at all the same as injecting something into you.

 

[clarksvol00]

It's right there in what he said. You have an expectation of others to cover your ass.

Frankly, I don't give a rip about you, so figure out your own safety and stop foisting responsibility on others.

If you wanted me to provide your safety and I obliged, I wouldn't leave my house at all, because most of what I do day to day is more risky to you and everyone else than COVID.

It's selfishness to demand other people look out for you as if your safety is worth more than anything else they may want. If you can't see that you live in clown world.

Don't give a rip about @GoDucks349? I guess that "love thy neighbor as thy self" thing only applies when you're trying to sling baked goods.

That's almost exactly what we did. Note that I'm still working on how I treat people even on here but my wife is perfect View attachment 285950

 

[ButchPlz]

Don't give a rip about @GoDucks349? I guess that "love thy neighbor as thy self" thing only applies when you're trying to sling baked goods.

Notice also how I said I am working on it, but I have a hard time when others show very little care about how I and others feel about caring for myself or my family.

Good work digging it up, though. I'm glad you care enough to sift through posts to prove that I admit I'm not perfect! Resorting to that kind of stuff is how you know you're losing.

 

[SumSoonerChick]

Not getting one. I’ve already passed up 3 separate opportunities, twice through my school and once through the VA. I had enough bad reactions to vaccines while in the Army. White Fever one landed me in the ER with severe allergic reactions and my throat closing. And I still have scars and symptoms from the Anthrax ones... Rather than a vaccine, I quit smoking, lost 30 lbs and started exercising & eating healthier to boost my immune system.

 

[ButchPlz]

Not getting one. I’ve already passed up 3 separate opportunities, twice through my school and once through the VA. I had enough bad reactions to vaccines while in the Army. White Fever one landed me in the ER with severe allergic reactions and my throat closing. And I still have scars and symptoms from the Anthrax ones... Rather than a vaccine, I quit smoking, lost 30 lbs and started exercising & eating healthier to boost my immune system.

A guy I work with was hospitalized after his second shot for COVID. He got it despite being a basically zero risk person to have issues with the virus itself.

 

[clarksvol00]

Notice also how I said I am working on it, but I have a hard time when others show very little care about how I and others feel about caring for myself or my family.

Good work digging it up, though. I'm glad you care enough to sift through posts to prove that I admit I'm not perfect!

Just happened to remind me that a lot of people responded positively to your post in a thread set up to help people promote their small businesses and didn't take an "I dont give a rip about you" approach.

 

[midnight orange]

I’m avoiding it as long as possible. COVID is statistically such a minimal threat to me and I don’t want to be a lab rat in the experimental trials they’re currently running on the general population.

 

[ButchPlz]

Just happened to remind me that a lot of people responded positively to your post in a thread set up to help people promote their small businesses and didn't take a "I dont give a rip about you" approach.

And I tend to care a lot about most people, and have done more than enough across the board in my life to support people that deserve it.

I don't care at all about people that roll in trying to shame others into aligning with their opinion alone, including you, a vile person trying to use history as a weapon. The poster in question is saying outright that everyone else should bow down to his will and take action purely because he would feel safer if they did.

It's not my job nor anyone else's to take actions to make others feel a certain way if I don't want to. My responsibility on earth is to my family alone, and I will choose who I want to respect and care for- and a manchild demanding action from people doesn't get it.

PS: to mind literally every person that supported my wife's business after my post would respect our decision to not get vaccinated.

 

[clarksvol00]

And I tend to care a lot about most people, and have done more than enough across the board in my life to support people that deserve it.

I don't care at all about people that roll in trying to shame others into aligning with their opinion alone, including you, a vile person trying to use history as a weapon. The poster in question is saying outright that everyone else should bow down to his will and take action purely because he would feel safer if they did.

It's not my job nor anyone else's to take actions to make others feel a certain way if I don't want to. My responsibility on earth is to my family alone, and I will choose who I want to respect and care for- and a manchild demanding action from people doesn't get it.

PS: to mind literally every person that supported my wife's business after my post would respect our decision to not get vaccinated.

I'm vile because I quoted your post? I didn't try to get you to align with any opinion. I just pointed out that you "don't give a rip" about a person, but reference scripture about "loving thy neighbor" on your business's social media.

 

[ButchPlz]

I'm vile because I quoted your post? I didn't try to get you to align with any opinion. I just pointed out that you "don't give a rip" about a person, but reference scripture about "loving thy neighbor" on your business's social media.

You quoted a post about me saying I fail at being as good as I should be. I'm not had like you think I am, but you reveal yourself to be an ass.

The emojis showed your intent. Which is indeed vile.

 

[clarksvol00]

You quoted a post about me saying I fail at being as good as I should be. I'm not had like you think I am, but you reveal yourself to be an ass.

The emojis showed your intent. Which is indeed vile.

That was your emoji dude.

 

[ButchPlz]

That was your emoji dude.

You're right. It was. Now explain your intent in sharing the post.

I said in the post you shared I fail at things. Is it to remind me that I fail at things I already know I fail at? That's pretty lame.

Add: maybe it's to embarrass me in front of people? Still pretty lame.

 

[NorthDallas40]

And just what the hell is wrong with emojis dammit

 

[clarksvol00]

You're right. It was. Now explain your intent in sharing the post.

I said in the post you shared I fail at things. Is it to remind me that I fail at things I already know I fail at? That's pretty lame.

Add: maybe it's to embarrass me in front of people? Still pretty lame.

The "don't give a rip" comment made me think about how people that have no reason to "give a rip" about you did anyway.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Totally disagree.

I will tell you that several people I've talked that got the vaccine had several responses similar to mine and that was one of such relief it was amazing and wonderful.

What was 'amazing and wonderful' about it?

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

It's right there in what he said. You have an expectation of others to cover your ass.

Frankly, I don't give a rip about you, so figure out your own safety and stop foisting responsibility on others.

If you wanted me to provide your safety and I obliged, I wouldn't leave my house at all, because most of what I do day to day is more risky to you and everyone else than COVID.

It's selfishness to demand other people look out for you as if your safety is worth more than anything else they may want. If you can't see that you live in clown world.

He wants you to provide for his safety, but I'll bet he's a defund the police supporter, and wants Xiden to take your guns as well.

But then we will all hold hands and sing together too as we go to free college and get reparations.