Who is the worst/most over rated football coach to win a national championship?

[Jaytrain5]

If so, we wouldn't be looking at possibly starting 2 or 3 true freshmen on the OL this year.

Sound reasoning. You're probably right. Kiffin just didn't recruit linemen.

 

[ddean1357]

Sound reasoning. You're probably right. Kiffin just didn't recruit linemen.

Do I detect some sarcasm?

 

[Volfan8282]

If so, we wouldn't be looking at possibly starting 2 or 3 true freshmen on the OL this year.

2 or 3 true freshman? James is the only one that could start from what I've seen.

The bottom line on Kiffin is that at worst his time here is a wash... at best, it was a foundation for some really great teams in 2011 and 2012.

 

[utvolpj]

He obviously didn't get enough of them. James looks like he will start on the line for the first game. It wouldn't surprise me to see Stone starting before the year is out. We should not need true freshmen starting on the OL.

blame Fulmer for that more than Kiffin. He was terrible in OL recruiting the last couple years

 

[Jaytrain5]

blame Fulmer for that more than Kiffin. He was terrible in OL recruiting the last couple years

Wrong. Kiffin doesn't recruit linemen.

Hey, speaking of linemen, does anybody know where Seantrel Henderson ended up signing?

 

[VolDad]

I would say there are 6 SEC schools that could go into the big 10 and win a conference championship at least every 3 years. Auburn, Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Florida, and Tennessee. THey don't go through the wear and tear of an SEC schedule. With some of the patsies they play, winning one or two games against a good team would be a lot easier.

That is conjecture/opinion based upon an SEC biased with no facts to prove it. Fact is;they continued to win Championships while Fulmer did not.

There have also been multiple SEC coaches winning multiple SECC since his last so it is not like anyone dominated (like Spurrier did in the 90’s).

 

[ddean1357]

blame Fulmer for that more than Kiffin. He was terrible in OL recruiting the last couple years

Fulmer definitely bears some of the blame, but Kiffin knew what the depth chart looked like when he took the job. He should have tried to fill in some of the holes in the 2009 class.

 

[ddean1357]

Wrong. Kiffin doesn't recruit linemen.

Hey, speaking of linemen, does anybody know where Seantrel Henderson ended up signing?

He sure ain't at Tennessee. What he is doing at USC is irrelevant to the conversation. I am talking about what he did at Tennessee.

 

[TrueOrange]

Wrong. Kiffin doesn't recruit linemen.

Hey, speaking of linemen, does anybody know where Seantrel Henderson ended up signing?

So Cal


geez the kid even has a wikipedia page about him and he hasn't even played his first game

 

[ddean1357]

That is conjecture/opinion based upon an SEC biased with no facts to prove it. Fact is;they continued to win Championships while Fulmer did not.

There have also been multiple SEC coaches winning multiple SECC since his last so it is not like anyone dominated (like Spurrier did in the 90’s).

This whole forum is opinion. I would take any of those SEC schools with Ohio State's schedule to win every three years or better. Like I said, check out OSU's record against the SEC.

 

[Jaytrain5]

He sure ain't at Tennessee.

Well, what's that tell you?

Obviously, Dooley doesn't recruit linemen.

 

[TrueOrange]

blame Fulmer for that more than Kiffin. He was terrible in OL recruiting the last couple years

Blame both honestly.

They're both responsible for the current state

 

[VolDad]

Wrong. Kiffin doesn't recruit linemen.

Hey, speaking of linemen, does anybody know where Seantrel Henderson ended up signing?

Who cares? Vegas told us OL/DL don't matter. It is all about the skill positions.

 

[Volfan8282]

Blame both honestly.

They're both responsible for the current state

I'm still not sure on how Kiffin is responsible.

 

[tvolsfan]

The topic is most overrated coach to win a national title. How does several conference championship appearances make you overrated as a coach?

How many of his last 3 did he win?

 

[ddean1357]

Blame both honestly.

They're both responsible for the current state

I totally agree.

 

[ddean1357]

How many of his last 3 did he win?

It was time for him to go. That does not make him an overated coach. Like it or not, Fulmer was a good coach.

 

[VolDad]

This whole forum is opinion. I would take any of those SEC schools with Ohio State's schedule to win every three years or better. Like I said, check out OSU's record against the SEC.

What about the bold is opinion? Looks like facts to me.

That is conjecture/opinion based upon an SEC biased with no facts to prove it. Fact is;they continued to win Championships while Fulmer did not.

There have also been multiple SEC coaches winning multiple SECC since his last so it is not like anyone dominated (like Spurrier did in the 90’s).

 

[TrueOrange]

I'm still not sure on how Kiffin is responsible.

are we just talking the situation with the linemen

or the current state of the team entirely?

I came in late, so I thought it was the latter

 

[tvolsfan]

The fan base/big boosters/AD are also responsible. The change was made years too late.

 

[vols-1]

I would rank Fulmers National Championship over any other coach's NC that-
A. did not have play a conference championship game
B. Won with the last coaches top recruits
C. Didn't go undefeated

 

[tvolsfan]

It was time for him to go. That does not make him an overated coach. Like it or not, Fulmer was a good coach.

Post 1998, he was Bill Battle part 2.

 

[utvolpj]

Blame both honestly.

They're both responsible for the current state

Fulmers last 2 recruiting classes produced one starter. Kiffin got us one without even being the coach on signing day

 

[VolDad]

It was time for him to go. That does not make him an overated coach. Like it or not, Fulmer was a good coach.

Against who? Saban? Meyers? Richt? Who?

 

[ddean1357]

What about the bold is opinion? Looks like facts to me.

Yes they won in the Big 10. What would they have done int he SEC. Tressell's only BCSC came as the result of a terrible pass interferance call. Yes they have dominated the Big 10, that does not make him a great coach.