Would you still want pearl gone if he didn't lie?

Either way we are in the tourney. I remember the days when we begged to get a bid. Getting rid of Pearl over one bad year (still making the tourney) is ridiculous.

Me wanting Pearl gone has nothing to do with this season. The impending NCAA sanctions that will be handed down because of him is.
 
There are at least two NBA players on this roster. His inability to provide any of the skills you lament.

Bad for you that your argument is a dead end either way. One, the player development, skill coaching, evaluation and recruiting suck; the other, the prep and game coaching suck. Nice point.
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Your only point I responded to was that BP has his most talented team ever. You are wrong. How can you watch them perform and not see the lack of basketball skills and instincts? Re your other points, I don't argue with them, except prep. BP and staff game prep as well as any. Try telling a college coach that 2 players (1 a freshman) qualify a team as the most talented ever and see how long your arguments lasts.
 
Your only point I responded to was that BP has his most talented team ever. You are wrong. How can you watch them perform and not see the lack of basketball skills and instincts? Re your other points, I don't argue with them, except prep. BP and staff game prep as well as any. Try telling a college coach that 2 players (1 a freshman) qualify a team as the most talented ever and see how long your arguments lasts.
Which team had more talent?

Know Gottfried? Ask him about talent. I'd mention a couple others, but they dint say it on the air like he does.

The missing skills you keep mentioning: we've had one team that had any of them and our coach didnt recruit a damn one of the players.
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Relative to?

Maybe you don't know that we still have to best higher education system in the world. Those schools getting to pick the best students helps them maintain that.
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Relative to what we would have if we did away with public education and completely privatized the whole system.
 
Relative to what we would have if we did away with public education and completely privatized the whole system.

How are the private schools better than the top flight private schools?

The problem is that we've decided that higher education is for everyone. The cardinal sin in our current society is exclusion, so we keep inviting more and more people who have no business getting a degree. Unwashed masses tend to be dilutive.
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Where are people getting this? Aside from the typical reactionary stuff from people frustrated after tough losses, i haven't heard a single person argue that Pearl should be fired based on wins and losses.

I hear people using it as a supporting argument throughout this thread and others.
 
Which team had more talent?

Know Gottfried? Ask him about talent. I'd mention a couple others, but they dint say it on the air like he does.

The missing skills you keep mentioning: we've had one team that had any of them and our coach didnt recruit a damn one of the players.
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Then five minutes later he says Pearl (steven) is the key to the team.
 
I hear people using it as a supporting argument throughout this thread and others.

There is no need for supporting argument. Nobody is having this conversation sans the lying to the AA and attempted collusion.
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How are the private schools better than the top flight private schools?

The problem is that we've decided that higher education is for everyone. The cardinal sin in our current society is exclusion, so we keep inviting more and more people who have no business getting a degree. Unwashed masses tend to be dilutive.
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Sounds like the fault of public education.
 
Which team had more talent? Know Gottfried? Ask him about talent. I'd mention a couple others, but they dint say it on the air like he does.

The missing skills you keep mentioning: we've had one team that had any of them and our coach didnt recruit a damn one of the players
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I haven't argued that point. I don't know why you keep bringing it up. If we don't have players now that have those skills we agree on, how the hell is the team the most talented?
 
There is no need for supporting argument. Nobody is having this conversation sans the lying to the AA and attempted collusion.
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No, they wouldn't have any of this to cowardly hide behind. They would just have to hate him for personal reason despite his success with our program.
 
I haven't argued that point. I don't know why you keep bringing it up. If we don't have players now that have those skills we agree on, how the hell is the team the most talented?

Yes you did. You've whined about basketball skill, but what's missing? Maybe the shooter. The rest we have. We're long. We're quick. We're athletic. We simply don't demand basketball out of a talented bunch. We have more talent now than ever.
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No, they wouldn't have any of this to cowardly hide behind. They would just have to hate him for personal reason despite his success with our program.
Absurd. Nobody's hiding behind jack. The guy blatantly cheated then blatantly lied about it and the cacophony started. Nobody here has ever had any problem with word mincing before. It hasn't started now.

We don't want a guy with an ethics charge running our program.
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How are the private schools better than the top flight private schools?

The problem is that we've decided that higher education is for everyone. The cardinal sin in our current society is exclusion, so we keep inviting more and more people who have no business getting a degree. Unwashed masses tend to be dilutive.
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public-open to or concerning the people as a whole

private-confined to particular persons or groups
 
I hear people using it as a supporting argument throughout this thread and others.

There isn't one post in this thread where someone advocates firing Pearl based on what's happened on the court.

There are plenty of posts pointing out how idiotic it is to regard Pearl as some sort of an elite coach, the only one who can win at Tennessee, etc etc. But that's hardly the same thing as advocating that he be fired on that basis.
 
Absurd. Nobody's hiding behind jack. The guy blatantly cheated then blatantly lied about it and the cacophony started. Nobody here has ever had any problem with word mincing before. It hasn't started now.

We don't want a guy with an ethics charge running our program.
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It's not your program. It's the public's program. No need, for high standards for a basketball coach of a public university. This isn't BYU. The University is corrupt, the system is corrupt, and the NCAA who is charging him is corrupt. Why should he been any different. Get over it, it's about winning.
 
You have to be a lot smarter to go to Berkeley to begin with. The quality of education is no better. Just far more liberal indoctrination.

What we have here is an example of why allegiance to ideology -- any ideology -- is a bad thing. At some point you get so invested in the ideology that when it runs up against actual facts, in the annoying and prickly way that things work in the real world, the facts have to go.
 
It's not your program. It's the public's program. No need, for high standards for a basketball coach of a public university. This isn't BYU. The University is corrupt, the system is corrupt, and the NCAA who is charging him is corrupt. Why should he been any different. Get over it, it's about winning.

LOL
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It's not your program. It's the public's program. No need, for high standards for a basketball coach of a public university. This isn't BYU. The University is corrupt, the system is corrupt, and the NCAA who is charging him is corrupt. Why should he been any different. Get over it, it's about winning.
Opinion noted and summarily ignored. Well, it wasnt that summary. I did laugh at the lengths to which you had to go to make our staff's shenanigans palatable.
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