Have any of your Biden voting friends

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utvolpj said:
Spend lots of money, build useless wall?
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I'm sure there's billions of dollars in the AMERICAN infrastructure plan going to foreign countries for WOKE programs that could go towards finishing the wall.
 
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utvolpj said:
No, real immigration reform would be handy. The wall is falling down and was as effective as the Maginot line
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We've had immigration reform with every president. Trump was the only one putting something useful in place.
 
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GVF said:
We've had immigration reform with every president. Trump was the only one putting something useful in place.
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No we haven't. None have installed real reform that addresses the immigration as well as the need for labor. The wall was useless and just kicked the can
 
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GVF said:
So illegal border crossings being reduced to an all-time low by the end of his term was little to nothing? A far better economy, and job market was nothing?
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I never said he didn't do a good job handling the economy but illegal immigration did not significantly decrease under Trump no matter how much you want to believe it, which was one of his main campaign talking points. He spent money just like the Democrats and his tax cuts did not greatly affect the average middle class worker
 
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utvolpj said:
No we haven't. None have installed real reform that addresses the immigration as well as the need for labor. The wall was useless and just kicked the can
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The wall, coupled with his policy work with Mexico to spear head the issue at their own southern border did a lot of good and was gaining results. Policy with a border, or a border without a policy is like driving your car thru a construction site without a spare tire.
 
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GVF said:
The wall, coupled with his policy work with Mexico to spear head the issue at their own southern border did a lot of good and was gaining results. Policy with a border, or a border without a policy is like driving your car thru a construction site without a spare tire.
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The wall is falling down. There was nothing addressing the need for labor in this country. That will never be solved with a wall
 
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Biden is the true definition of a weak leader.

Trump wanted to withdrawal our troops from Afghanistan but not like this.

Biden handled it very poorly.

He was put in office so everyone’s feelings wouldn’t get hurt over mean tweets.
 
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utvolpj said:
Spend lots of money, build useless wall?
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Useless wall? Absolutely not in my opinion. Do you see what's going on at the border? It's useless when you have incompetent fools like we have now intentionally sabotaging it.
 
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volfanhill said:
Every single school shooting and you come running out to dance on the graves of children.


EVERY SINGLE ONE

Your lack of self awareness is astonishing at times
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That's a completely false comparison.

We see time and again mass shootings but ignore gun violence on the whole. The gun lobby and its minions use the same playbook each time, which is to defer and delay until the event fades in the public consciousness.

The situation here is ongoing and acute. And the GOP and Fox and all haters of Biden are piling on with glee.

Its disgusting. How about we focus on two things: one is getting everyone we can out of there safely and as rapidly as we can, and two how we deal with the lingering problems of Afghanistan, the Taliban, and ISIS after that?

Then when campagining starts you can point back to this as a reason to vote against Biden or whoever you want and we can have the Bush-Obama-Trump-Biden or Trump-Biden or just Biden debate all you want. Right now, focus needs to be on the crisis at hand.
 
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landscapingvol said:
I never said he didn't do a good job handling the economy but illegal immigration did not significantly decrease under Trump no matter how much you want to believe it, which was one of his main campaign talking points. He spent money just like the Democrats and his tax cuts did not greatly affect the average middle class worker
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If you micro analyze a president, then we've never had a good one, ever. It's like marriage, if you nit pick every singe fault, then you will have a bad marriage and you'll never be happy. In the grand scheme of things he did do a good job, regardless of his glaring faults, regardless of the fact that he was attacked on every possible angle instead of accepting him as POTUS, and the country was better off in the grand scheme of things. Conversely, I've not had any tax gains yet under Biden, and will not ever see them, and now I pay more for everything to boot. I'm not defending Trump as a person, that's futile. I'm defending his effectiveness, and it was better than those in recent years, in spite of what he had to face every single day on the job. Likely, if he wasn't who he is, he'd have crumbled under the attacks and never got anything done.
 
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GVF said:
He never really was afforded the opportunity to see if he could make that transition. They never backed off or accepted he won, and never tried to work with him as POTUS.
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I agree. They were intent on making his presidency tough as possible starting with the fake Russian dossier.
 
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BreatheUT said:
Useless wall? Absolutely not in my opinion. Do you see what's going on at the border? It's useless when you have incompetent fools like we have now intentionally sabotaging it.
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Wonder how many Covid cases are coming over the border alone, yet Americans who choose not to get vaccinated are the enemies?
 
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lawgator1 said:
That's a completely false comparison.

We see time and again mass shootings but ignore gun violence on the whole. The gun lobby and its minions use the same playbook each time, which is to defer and delay until the event fades in the public consciousness.

The situation here is ongoing and acute. And the GOP and Fox and all haters of Biden are piling on with glee.

Its disgusting. How about we focus on two things: one is getting everyone we can out of there safely and as rapidly as we can, and two how we deal with the lingering problems of Afghanistan, the Taliban, and ISIS after that?

Then when campagining starts you can point back to this as a reason to vote against Biden or whoever you want and we can have the Bush-Obama-Trump-Biden or Trump-Biden or just Biden debate all you want. Right now, focus needs to be on the crisis at hand.
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Wow. You lack any sense of self awareness. You are absolutley no different that what you are describing.
 
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BreatheUT said:
I agree. They were intent on making his presidency tough as possible starting with the fake Russian dossier.
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It was all about retribution. Trump was one of them. Trump bailed and took on Hillary. Atleast with Trump, you had Pence as a backup. Now we have a useless Ho.
 
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lawgator1 said:
That's a completely false comparison.

We see time and again mass shootings but ignore gun violence on the whole. The gun lobby and its minions use the same playbook each time, which is to defer and delay until the event fades in the public consciousness.

The situation here is ongoing and acute. And the GOP and Fox and all haters of Biden are piling on with glee.

Its disgusting. How about we focus on two things: one is getting everyone we can out of there safely and as rapidly as we can, and two how we deal with the lingering problems of Afghanistan, the Taliban, and ISIS after that?

Then when campagining starts you can point back to this as a reason to vote against Biden or whoever you want and we can have the Bush-Obama-Trump-Biden or Trump-Biden or just Biden debate all you want. Right now, focus needs to be on the crisis at hand.
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Well now, That tactic sounds familiar. Except Biden earned his due rather quickly. He has fumbled everything. Trump just won an election to get his due.
 
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GVF said:
It was all about retribution. Trump was one of them. Trump bailed and took on Hillary. Atleast with Trump, you had Pence as a backup. Now we have a useless Ho.
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It is beyond reason democrats think the combination of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris is a standard bearer.
 
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lawgator1 said:
That's a completely false comparison.

We see time and again mass shootings but ignore gun violence on the whole. The gun lobby and its minions use the same playbook each time, which is to defer and delay until the event fades in the public consciousness.

The situation here is ongoing and acute. And the GOP and Fox and all haters of Biden are piling on with glee.

Its disgusting. How about we focus on two things: one is getting everyone we can out of there safely and as rapidly as we can, and two how we deal with the lingering problems of Afghanistan, the Taliban, and ISIS after that?

Then when campagining starts you can point back to this as a reason to vote against Biden or whoever you want and we can have the Bush-Obama-Trump-Biden or Trump-Biden or just Biden debate all you want. Right now, focus needs to be on the crisis at hand.
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No, it’s not a false comparison, it was dead on accurate. You are a hypocrite of the first order. The focus right now is on the crisis at hand and that crisis is a President and his administration that are sh!tting the bed time and time again, lying about it continuously and creating one disaster after another.
 
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BreatheUT said:
Useless wall? Absolutely not in my opinion. Do you see what's going on at the border? It's useless when you have incompetent fools like we have now intentionally sabotaging it.
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With real reform there's no need for a wall
 
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lawgator1 said:
That's a completely false comparison.

We see time and again mass shootings but ignore gun violence on the whole. The gun lobby and its minions use the same playbook each time, which is to defer and delay until the event fades in the public consciousness.

The situation here is ongoing and acute. And the GOP and Fox and all haters of Biden are piling on with glee.

Its disgusting. How about we focus on two things: one is getting everyone we can out of there safely and as rapidly as we can, and two how we deal with the lingering problems of Afghanistan, the Taliban, and ISIS after that?

Then when campagining starts you can point back to this as a reason to vote against Biden or whoever you want and we can have the Bush-Obama-Trump-Biden or Trump-Biden or just Biden debate all you want. Right now, focus needs to be on the crisis at hand.
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